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Lefty Schrage
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Johan Jansen
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Had to play outside yesterday, on a sun heated stage.
Could not get the Hilton to work, checked everything, all hook-ups worked exept my volume pedal, was a nightmare...
Till one of the roadies came up with the idea to put the pedal in the fridge backstage for a few minutes. After hooking up, IT WORKED!!! crazy, huh?
JJ
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<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Johan Jansen on 05 July 2001 at 02:21 PM.]</p></FONT>
Could not get the Hilton to work, checked everything, all hook-ups worked exept my volume pedal, was a nightmare...
Till one of the roadies came up with the idea to put the pedal in the fridge backstage for a few minutes. After hooking up, IT WORKED!!! crazy, huh?
JJ
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STEELDAYS 2002 March 29 & 30
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my bands CODand TSC
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Johan Jansen on 05 July 2001 at 02:21 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Jerry, I was just wondering if anyone out there had any bad comments about Keiths wonderful pedal,that is apart from the price?
Now and again I try all my other units and am wowed by all their different tonal characteristics not realizing over the years how different they`ve sounded
Bob Mainwaring. Z.Bs. and other weird things.
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Now and again I try all my other units and am wowed by all their different tonal characteristics not realizing over the years how different they`ve sounded

Bob Mainwaring. Z.Bs. and other weird things.
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ebb
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i bought one used and sold it immediately.
the change in tone was a brightness that i thought was somewhat brittle. it was almost like a high frequency strobe effect that made me feel like i was listening to the electronics sampling the signal. because i am so in the minority on this opinion i intend to try one again to see if it was that particular unit or my wacko ears.
the change in tone was a brightness that i thought was somewhat brittle. it was almost like a high frequency strobe effect that made me feel like i was listening to the electronics sampling the signal. because i am so in the minority on this opinion i intend to try one again to see if it was that particular unit or my wacko ears.
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I agree with Bobby. The only time I don't use the Hilton is when I have to get my guitar on and off-stage quickly and don't have time to adjust stage amps....on those occasions I carry my guitar with the pot-pedal attached to the pedal bar, and the 7A attached to the leg. www.genejones.com <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 16 July 2001 at 04:22 AM.]</p></FONT>
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Larry Bell
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ebb,
I suspect what you were hearing was the sound of your own guitar.
I found that it is important to be sure you aren't using the preamp in the Hilton pedal to boost the level going into your amp. IT CAN be LOUDER than your guitar would normally be plugged straight in. If you are boosting the signal, it may change the tone somewhat.
I tested using three different guitars and found no difference in tone between STRAIGHT THROUGH (guitar to amp) and USING THE PEDAL (guitar to pedal to amp). I did, however, find a MAJOR difference between the sound using the Hilton pedal vs my Emmons pedal or one of the older Goodrich pedals. The pot-based pedals robbed high frequencies that the Hilton passes right through.
Just my experience . . .
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<small>Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
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I suspect what you were hearing was the sound of your own guitar.

I found that it is important to be sure you aren't using the preamp in the Hilton pedal to boost the level going into your amp. IT CAN be LOUDER than your guitar would normally be plugged straight in. If you are boosting the signal, it may change the tone somewhat.
I tested using three different guitars and found no difference in tone between STRAIGHT THROUGH (guitar to amp) and USING THE PEDAL (guitar to pedal to amp). I did, however, find a MAJOR difference between the sound using the Hilton pedal vs my Emmons pedal or one of the older Goodrich pedals. The pot-based pedals robbed high frequencies that the Hilton passes right through.
Just my experience . . .
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If the Hilton pedal doesn´t work well with a Match Box, will it work with a Match-Bro One dobro simulator (the one without the tone control for the steel circuit)?
Do you all carry a pot pedal as a backup incase the Hilton doesn´t work?
Does the Hilton open to a wider angle in the off-position as compared to a Goodrich 120 - and therefore giving some of us longer-legged creatures leg cramps?
Is there a 230 volts unit? (You see, we use REAL electricity here in Europe.)
Thanx, Rainer
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Do you all carry a pot pedal as a backup incase the Hilton doesn´t work?
Does the Hilton open to a wider angle in the off-position as compared to a Goodrich 120 - and therefore giving some of us longer-legged creatures leg cramps?
Is there a 230 volts unit? (You see, we use REAL electricity here in Europe.)

Thanx, Rainer
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Remington D 10 8/8, Session 400 LTD
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Gene Jones
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I always carried an extra pot-pedal as a backup even when my primary pedal was a pot-pedal. (repeat that five times as fast as you can) www.genejones.com <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 17 July 2001 at 08:55 AM.]</p></FONT>
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Larry Bell
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Rainer,
A MatchBox or other buffer amp is redundant with the Hilton pedal. That circuitry is already built in to the pedal itself. I use a MatchBro (SuperBro, actually) and, if anything, the Hilton pedal makes it and other effects sound even better.
I have three or four volume pedals, so, yes, I do carry a spare. I also carry a spare AC adapter for the Hilton.
I have mild arthritis in my right ankle, so I'm not sure I'd even notice a cramp, but the Hilton allows you to adjust the height of the back of the pedal which may help get the correct angle. Keith also has a couple of different brackets to mount the pedal to the pedalbar.
Don't know whether a high voltage / European version is available. Seems like some of our European Forum colleagues have mentioned using one. Send EMail to Keith. He is very responsive to user needs. Good man, good company, good products. (MHO)
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<small>Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Emmons D-10 9x9, 1971 Dobro
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Larry Bell on 20 July 2001 at 06:59 AM.]</p></FONT>
A MatchBox or other buffer amp is redundant with the Hilton pedal. That circuitry is already built in to the pedal itself. I use a MatchBro (SuperBro, actually) and, if anything, the Hilton pedal makes it and other effects sound even better.
I have three or four volume pedals, so, yes, I do carry a spare. I also carry a spare AC adapter for the Hilton.
I have mild arthritis in my right ankle, so I'm not sure I'd even notice a cramp, but the Hilton allows you to adjust the height of the back of the pedal which may help get the correct angle. Keith also has a couple of different brackets to mount the pedal to the pedalbar.
Don't know whether a high voltage / European version is available. Seems like some of our European Forum colleagues have mentioned using one. Send EMail to Keith. He is very responsive to user needs. Good man, good company, good products. (MHO)
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<small>Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Emmons D-10 9x9, 1971 Dobro
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Larry Bell on 20 July 2001 at 06:59 AM.]</p></FONT>
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No more pots for me. I bought mine from Herby Wallace last May when he played the "British Steel Festival." The only thing I wasn't happy about was the permenantly connected PSU. Problem now solved, I fitted a 3 pin DIN socket to the pedal and connect to a seperate PSU via a 6 foot lead with an XLR on the other end.
Cheers for now
Dave
Cheers for now
Dave
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Ernie Renn
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I'm a dealer, user and I love it. I don't like is the wall wart that you have to use. I've had to re-do the cord a couple of times. It's pretty flimsy.
I also agree with Mikey W. It goes a little far back for me and I can see that it might cause a leg cramp. I still use it for the sound, though. I also keep my Emmons pedal in the seat, just in case.
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My best,
Ernie
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I also agree with Mikey W. It goes a little far back for me and I can see that it might cause a leg cramp. I still use it for the sound, though. I also keep my Emmons pedal in the seat, just in case.
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My best,
Ernie
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