Most ironic lyrics you've ever heard?

Derek Duplessie · Post by **Derek Duplessie** » 7 Dec 2003 6:46 pm

Liz Phair- It's a death in our love that has brought us here, it's a birth that has changed or lives...
2 years later Liz had a kid and then got a divorce.
-Derek

Chris Bauer · Post by **Chris Bauer** » 7 Dec 2003 7:38 pm

Perhaps most interestingly ironic about Liz Phair is how she now seems to have lost the very sense of irony that made her so interesting to begin with...

Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 7 Dec 2003 9:52 pm

Oh. Now that it has "died down" on the Hells Angels thing..

If a person, bar, band, or other entity decides to use the Red and White for self edification, or "protection", they eventually find out that it's not set up that way.

The Band in question AND the "crowd" tried to be something they were not. It just didn't work out.

EJL

Pat Burns · Post by **Pat Burns** » 8 Dec 2003 8:46 am

"Tootie Frootie Aw Rootie" from the lips of terminally white Pat Boone

.."Play That Funky Music, White Boy"..

...and let us not forget country legend George Jones' introspective record of regret about alcohol in his life...

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I've had choices
From the day that I was born
I heard voices
That told me right from wrong
If I had listened
Well, I wouldn't be here today
Living and dying with the choices I've made<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

...right after this was released, he got blind drunk and drove his Lexus into a bridge abutment, nearly killing him...

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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 8 Dec 2003 4:29 pm

I was there at Altamont. We didn't know until the next day that someone had been killed. It was wierd, though, the way the Stones kept starting and stopping that song.

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Gary C. Dygert · Post by **Gary C. Dygert** » 8 Dec 2003 6:09 pm

One of the weirdest lines is "What am I bid for these two eyes that gazed upon her?" The song was cowritten by Leon Rhodes and sung by him on ET's "Hittin' the Road" album.

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chas smith R.I.P. · Post by **chas smith R.I.P.** » 8 Dec 2003 11:28 pm

We didn't know until the next day that someone had been killed. It was wierd, though, the way the Stones kept starting and stopping that song.

The way I heard it was that the man who was killed, kicked over an Angel bike (never a good idea). The Stones were going to walk off the stage, because things were getting out of hand, but one of the Angels pulled a gun on Mick and suggested that they continue. I wasn't there, but this seems plausable.

nick allen · Post by **nick allen** » 9 Dec 2003 6:38 am

Re: Altamont - a few more pieces of trivia...
The concert actually involved a LOT of bands - including the Flying Burrito Bros, C,S,N and maybe Y, Ike & Tina Turner, and I think the Grateful Dead as well as Jefferson Airplane. Marty Balin of the Airplane did indeed get knocked out on stage. The Angels were I believe hired by Sam Cutler, "road manager" for many bands, including the Stones at that point.
Meredith Hunter certainly DID pull a gun - it's quite clear in the movie - WHY he pulled it has been much speculated upon, ranging from an assassination attempt on Mick Jagger to a desperate attempt to defend himself when already being attacked by the Hell's Angels...
Other than the Maysles Brothers movie already referred to, probably the best source of information on this unfortunate event is a book by Stanley Booth, called something like "Up and Down With the Rolling Stones"...
Glad you survived it, b0b!!

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 9 Dec 2003 8:59 am

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Tom Olson · Post by **Tom Olson** » 9 Dec 2003 11:31 am

It seems like the Hell's Angels can't get away from the negative view in which they are seen by most of the mainstream population because the H.A's. are apparently incapable of refraining from criminal activity. I heard within the last week or two that several Hell's Angels chapters on the west coast were raided because of drug-dealing and who-knows what else.

chas smith R.I.P. · Post by **chas smith R.I.P.** » 9 Dec 2003 4:24 pm

They make a visible and easy target for the get-tough-on-crime guys. The "big money" is in white-collar crime and those guys are much harder to nab and prosecute.

Tom Olson · Post by **Tom Olson** » 9 Dec 2003 4:59 pm

Well, I guess I'd have to agree that any group that is well known for it's past history of criminal activity and which, in spite of that, continues to commit conspiracy, murder, manufacture of meth and sales of illegal drugs would tend to make a visible target.

Dave Boothroyd · Post by **Dave Boothroyd** » 9 Dec 2003 11:38 pm

I have a video of an interview with Jerry Garcia, in which he describes that threatening atmosphere at Altamont. It was so bad that the Dead would not go on.
The Stones were making a film and wanted to go on after dark, and that left a big hole in the event which allowed things to brew up even more.
He also says that the Angel leaders were not there and instead there were a lot of "young lieutenants"who felt they had something to prove.
Cheers
Dave

Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 10 Dec 2003 12:04 am

I think they would've done better to have hired Pinkerton or Brinks...... hindsight I guess.

I don't think things would have turned out much better if they would have had "captains or majors". It ain't like the boy scouts..

Everybody, if they didn't get what they wanted, got what they needed.

Isn't that the way the song goes?

EJL
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Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 11 Dec 2003 4:22 pm

Eric, even a "respected" name like Pinkertons doesn't guarantee safety!

A touring band I was once with had a week of dances booked in Monte Vista, Colorado during their annual rodeo, and Pinkerton unexpectedly had a contract dispute with the City and "bailed out and went back to Denver" leaving Friday & Saturday "open season" during the last two days of the rodeo. The streets went "wild" and the band barely escaped harm after the drunken cowboy rowdys sent word they were going to "beat up" the band.

I was especially concerned because we had also played the rodeo competition and we had played the "William Tell Overture" so many times during the riding events that we deserved to be "beat up".

Unions!!!!

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