The Young: Are they Ruining Country Music?

Joe Miraglia · Post by **Joe Miraglia** » 2 Sep 2003 11:36 am

Right on Theuse! Brandon, do you think that Brad Paisley needs to learn music, learn the guitar? He is one of them young ones. His steel palyer is young , many of us old people could only wish we could be that good. Its not the young that's ruining Country Music--It's, the old ones that complain about all the time. I,m 64. Joe

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 2 Sep 2003 11:48 am

Thanks Joe,
Brad plays great guitar & I'm glad he used Randle Currie on his latest cd! Brad & Randle are the young ones!

Theresa

Joe Miraglia · Post by **Joe Miraglia** » 2 Sep 2003 12:29 pm

Theresa, sorry I spelled your name wrong. I met Brad and Randel on the Opry Cruise in January, we all had a great time .Got to talk to Randel and his sweet wife.Yes he did a great job on that C.D. Joe[This message was edited by Joe Miraglia on 02 September 2003 at 04:13 PM.][This message was edited by Joe Miraglia on 02 September 2003 at 04:18 PM.]

Adrian Wulff · Post by **Adrian Wulff** » 2 Sep 2003 7:11 pm

Ultimately, only the young will keep country music alive-good or bad.

I've started going to a local country jam in a small bar off of I-5 lately. Last Sunday me and my band (all under 35,not that young I guess) got up and played a few and then sat in with the regulars (all over 40). We were happy because there was fiddle and steel and no classic rock or Top Forty in sight, and they seemed happy to have us there doing songs that we like (Merle,Hank Thompson,E.T., Buck). We've had a couple of Forumites site in with us-Eric West,Ray Montee, Doug Jones-and it's always been a blast.

What I really want to say is that style and taste will always be timeless, whether the picker is 28 or 88. I really like stealing all the licks I can from the more experienced players and I guess they appreciate that there's at least a few younger guys who want to keep the tradition alive.

Adrian Wulff
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Jussi Huhtakangas · Post by **Jussi Huhtakangas** » 2 Sep 2003 11:19 pm

Joe M, I think Brandon meant the general unawareness and ignorance ( "not knowing any better" )of music of all genres, which is mainly caused by big corporate owned radio & tv-stations and record companies. Here's a few examples; how many of you have heard or bought Susanna Van Tassel's "This Heart I Wear" cd, or Dave Stuckey's "Get A Load Of This", or The Lucky Stars' "Hollywood And Western", or Dallas Wayne's "Big Thinkin"??? These are all GREAT traditional country/western swing music featuring some amazing steel playing, singing and songwriting ( mostly by young people btw. )But since these are all on independent labels, they're not being played much, or at all, on radio, so they're not selling much either. So I bet most of the people here on the forum have no idea these records exist, even though it's the stuff constantly being cried after here. Not that people here don't care but it's all about promotion nowadays; how can you buy a record you don't even know exists, not to mention a complete style of music. "I didn't like Mexican food until I tasted it"

Tom Olson · Post by **Tom Olson** » 8 Sep 2003 1:53 pm

As has already been pointed out above, and to paraphrase a bit, it all depends on your point of view.

I'm not commenting on whether a particular genre or type of music is good or bad. However, it's obvious to me that more than a few people consider the "stuff" being sold as "country" music today to be quite good.

Why is that obvious? Because so much of the "stuff" is being sold. We all know that the "stuff" that sells the most is usually the "stuff" that floats to the top. Who would buy and/or listen to and/or watch "stuff" that they didn't enjoy?

Therefore, reasonable minds must conclude that there are a lot of people out there who think the "stuff" is good.

However, I'm thinking that there were at least a few musicians back in the 50's who were wondering how anyone could like that "stuff" those kookie rock'n rollers like Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Johnny Cash, George Jones and a bunch of others were playing back then. Hmmph!!

Charles French · Post by **Charles French** » 9 Sep 2003 7:30 am

There is a BIG difference between a musician and non-musician view of what's good and what's not. In one particular sells job I had my boss told me " You can't sell em and educate em at the same time, so just sell em" Granted, people nearing 50 or above have a different idea of good and bad or even passable. The majority of the record buying public buy these records because they have nothing to measure it against. The record company says here it is, there's nothing else. Musicians have a measuring stick due to their knowledge of playing an instrument and musicians of the past that have influenced their playing. The truth is there is a definate difference in what a listener of music and a musician precieves as good or bad. You cannot expect a non musician to appreciate the theory or techinal abilities of music. Look at the Danny Gatton story! A musician could only really appreciate what this man could do with a guitar. So there he was, basically alone with his music without the reconizition (other than fellow musicians)that he so rightly deserved.

Take my wife (not literaly) for instance. She likes her music as well as anyone. She basically is like the typical person the record companies market to. We have almost totally opposite taste in music. I get in her car and she's got Shania or Celine D or Barry White in the player. I almost wreck trying to eject the cd. But then she does the same trying to eject my music. I can sit and listen in amazement to Leon & Buddy doing those great licks. My wife could care less. The general record buying public could care less. They precieve, does it have a good beat and are the words something they can relate to. In conclusion to my ramblin. The record companies are doin exactly the right thing to sell records to the unconcerning public. They don't gripe about whats on the radio, they like it!!! Musicians Hate it!!!

It's just a shame record companies won't make recordings available for the more discernable listerners. Once you've heard the best, it's hard to take less.

John Bechtel · Post by **John Bechtel** » 9 Sep 2003 9:51 pm

If you ask “Are they?” the answer is NO. Someone already beat them to it!

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Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 10 Sep 2003 8:38 am

My point exactly.

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