If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always gotten.
Someone said that to me a while ago, and it applies to this question. Keep listening to the radio, and you'll keep believing that there's nothing but payola crap being made. Turn off the feed, look for different sources, and you will be pleasantly surprised.
Does Country Music actually exist ......anymore?
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Check out the following sites for some good resources to country music. http://www.freighttrainboogie.com http://www.villagerecords.com http://www.milesofmusic.com/links.html
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Some things are for sure ;
time passes,
styles change,
equipement and their possibilities get more powerful,
people age,
most artists progress and then hit a point when they repeat with much less inovation,
People continue to learn, but at a continuingly slower rate,
people get used to what they like and don't change as much as when young,
money talks,
the young supplant the old,
the old don't like it,
What was, is not now...
But a recording remains the same.
Locked in time, the moment and circumstances captured...
and never to be repeated, only emulated.
If you listen to Hank Snow you hear all sorts of things many at the time thought weren't country.
Now he is classic country.
Country from the 30's was much different than country of the 60's
and then also that was different from the country of the 90's.
Many artists of the 30's didn't like very much the stuff in the 60's.. too electric, but 20 years later they are used to it. But it took them awhile to get used to it.
Many artists of the 60's didn't much care for the stuff from the 80's
Some artists crossed several decades and their styles "changed with the times". Sometimes willingly some times not.
Many that didn't change are now after thoughts for collectors. Or just milestones of musical history.
Others continued to innovate within their vision, and their whole catalog is like a voyage. Those are the ones I like and admire most.
Some hit stride and died suddenly being frozen in time
Patsy, Hank, Jimmy. Jim Morrison, Jimi, Janis, Richie Valens, etc.
I see no dicotomy in liking :
Jimmy Rogers with Louis Armstrong
The Eagles
Spade Cooley and Bob Wills
Alan Jackson
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
The Stanley Brothers circa 1949
Ralph Stanley with Wayfairing Strangers
Alabama
Mother Maybelle and AP.
Aliison Krauss
The Dead
Connie Smith
Burl Ives
Uncle Dave Macon
Sweet Hearts Of The Rodeo
The Delmore Brothers
Loggins and Messina
Ray Price
Faron
Willie
Waylon
Johnnie
Hank
Earnest
Shania
Dixie Chicks
Stephen Foster
There is "country music" in all of them as far as I am concerned.
I can however agree that radio programmers in large part are contractually forced
to play music to the largest possible audience of the listeners who buy products, as sold by demographers, to the advertisers paying for the time to access as large a market as possible for their products.
It's a business campers, and we are not the greatest common denominator.
The young have more time free to listen, and have disposable cash, so they are logically targeted.
They also habitually and obstinantly refuse to listen to what their parents listened to, until later in life their tastes and expiriences widen their outlook.
At that point they also have more money earmarked for other things like car payments, children and homes etc. So less disposable cash for music.
You guys over the pond, please make me a list, here, of the advertisers on those few and far between "real country stations". I would be very interested in the demograpics of these stations percieved markets. It might be quite enlightening here. I have a few suspicions, but won't voice them yet.
Thank fully there are boutique lables like Rounder and Sugar Hill that cater to historically correct styles done well for those that have started looking back to the musical roots, now so well hidden from the airwaves.
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 07 December 2003 at 07:40 AM.]</p></FONT>
time passes,
styles change,
equipement and their possibilities get more powerful,
people age,
most artists progress and then hit a point when they repeat with much less inovation,
People continue to learn, but at a continuingly slower rate,
people get used to what they like and don't change as much as when young,
money talks,
the young supplant the old,
the old don't like it,
What was, is not now...
But a recording remains the same.
Locked in time, the moment and circumstances captured...
and never to be repeated, only emulated.
If you listen to Hank Snow you hear all sorts of things many at the time thought weren't country.
Now he is classic country.
Country from the 30's was much different than country of the 60's
and then also that was different from the country of the 90's.
Many artists of the 30's didn't like very much the stuff in the 60's.. too electric, but 20 years later they are used to it. But it took them awhile to get used to it.
Many artists of the 60's didn't much care for the stuff from the 80's
Some artists crossed several decades and their styles "changed with the times". Sometimes willingly some times not.
Many that didn't change are now after thoughts for collectors. Or just milestones of musical history.
Others continued to innovate within their vision, and their whole catalog is like a voyage. Those are the ones I like and admire most.
Some hit stride and died suddenly being frozen in time
Patsy, Hank, Jimmy. Jim Morrison, Jimi, Janis, Richie Valens, etc.
I see no dicotomy in liking :
Jimmy Rogers with Louis Armstrong
The Eagles
Spade Cooley and Bob Wills
Alan Jackson
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
The Stanley Brothers circa 1949
Ralph Stanley with Wayfairing Strangers
Alabama
Mother Maybelle and AP.
Aliison Krauss
The Dead
Connie Smith
Burl Ives
Uncle Dave Macon
Sweet Hearts Of The Rodeo
The Delmore Brothers
Loggins and Messina
Ray Price
Faron
Willie
Waylon
Johnnie
Hank
Earnest
Shania
Dixie Chicks
Stephen Foster
There is "country music" in all of them as far as I am concerned.
I can however agree that radio programmers in large part are contractually forced
to play music to the largest possible audience of the listeners who buy products, as sold by demographers, to the advertisers paying for the time to access as large a market as possible for their products.
It's a business campers, and we are not the greatest common denominator.
The young have more time free to listen, and have disposable cash, so they are logically targeted.
They also habitually and obstinantly refuse to listen to what their parents listened to, until later in life their tastes and expiriences widen their outlook.
At that point they also have more money earmarked for other things like car payments, children and homes etc. So less disposable cash for music.
You guys over the pond, please make me a list, here, of the advertisers on those few and far between "real country stations". I would be very interested in the demograpics of these stations percieved markets. It might be quite enlightening here. I have a few suspicions, but won't voice them yet.
Thank fully there are boutique lables like Rounder and Sugar Hill that cater to historically correct styles done well for those that have started looking back to the musical roots, now so well hidden from the airwaves.
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 07 December 2003 at 07:40 AM.]</p></FONT>
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I draw the line at music that doesn't sound good. And actually, I don't much care what they play on the radio, because I don't listen to radio a whole lot.
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