Tabledit Question - Adding a new Instrument/Tuning?

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Tabledit Question - Adding a new Instrument/Tuning?

Post by Kristen Bruno »

I have the Tabledit full version.

I noticed in the choice of instruments there is no 8 string lap steel instrument.

What I did was to take the stock C6 six string lap steel which was (CEGACE)and added two strings and named them (in this case (ACEGACEG).
Put in a bars of tab and it played correctly. But I noticed that the print preview did not show the string numbers or note names.
I tried to rename the instrument but it didn't work.

I closed the program, opened the file and under the instruments it still showed the C6 (six string instrument) , again with the original 6 strings.

Is there a procedure to make a new instrument, like an 8 string lap steel, name the strings, and save it as a new instrument to be used later, and also have the string numbers in the printout?

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K
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Post by Matthieu Leschemelle »

I don't quite understand the problem.

I created the file with an 8-stringed instrument. I saved it.

If you want string numbers instead of note names in the printout, you have to check the PSG option in the Module tab.

Yours sincerely.

Matthieu

PS: I've posted the file in our new forum: https://groups.io/g/tabledit/files/Examples
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Post by Kristen Bruno »

Matthieu,

First made an 8 string instrument from the chosen six string option.
Put in some tab.
Printout shows corectly the 8 strings with entered tab on the string, but no string numbers. (as previously mentioned)

THEN, as you have mentioned,
I again made the same 8 string instrument as before (it doesn't appear to save any prior instrument changes I had made).
I checked the PSG box in the module as you mentioned.
The string names 1 through 8 DID show up on printout. GOOD! However the tab was no longer "on the strings". It was between the strings as was with the pedal steel guitar. I tried the "on the tab" and between the tab options, and stayed "between the tab".

So far my conclusion is:
1) The problem of printing the string numbers has been solved.
2)Having the option to print the tab "on the tab lines" or between the tab lines doesn't work when PSG option is checked. Although this option allows the string numbers to be printed as you have mentioned, it will only print between the tab line, no matter which option is chosen.
I can live with the "between the lines" tab. Most of the tab I have is like this. Just would be nice to have the option.
3) Most important to me (and probably others) is the ability to save my own pedal steel(or lap steel) copedent tuning so I do not have to reprogram the strings every time I need to write something specific for my instrument.

Not trying to be a pain. Just trying to point out possible improvements to make your program even better. I will join the forum you mentioned to see if I can learn any tips and tricks.

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K
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Post by Matthieu Leschemelle »

Hi Kristen,

As I told you, to get the fret numbers across the strings, you'll have to wait for the new 3.0 version.

I made the change this morning. The principle is the following: if the module name starts with a dash, TablEdit now applies the Options->General setting even if the instrument is tagged as a PSG.

If the "Print tuning" option is selected, TablEdit now prints the note name of the open string. As with most other instruments managed by TablEdit.

As I read your message, I understand that you would prefer to have string numbers 1 to 8. Do I understand correctly? It's not hard to change.

Please let me have your thoughts.

Matthieu
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Post by Kristen Bruno »

Matthieu,

With respect to lap steel (with no pedal changes)...
Its not that I prefer 8 strings...
Some of us have 6 string lap steels, 8 string lap steels, and even 10 string lap steels.
The different tunings on these steels is not set in stone, they are tuned to what each individual player prefer.

The same is true for pedal steel guitars.
There are some with 8 strings, most have ten strings, some with 12 strings etc. Similarly, each player tweaks their pedals and knee levers to tune exactly what they prefer.

K
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Post by Matthieu Leschemelle »

Hi Kristen,

I'm not talking about the number of strings on your instrument, I'm talking about how you want to identify the strings. By a number or by the note on the open string.


I'm sure we'll understand each other eventually :D

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Post by Kristen Bruno »

Actually to have the option for both would be nice.

K
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