Open G 6 string tuning with Benders

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Open G 6 string tuning with Benders

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Can someone give me the best copedent for GBDGBD WITH BENDERS ON TWO STRING FOR LAP STEEL.

Carl
I have a Tele plus telecaster, Larrivee acoustic. Also have a Fender resonator guitar with new Quarterman cone and spider, and an Allan tailpiece .Playing through a Fender Super Champ XD, using a little delay on the amp and a Harmonix Holy Grail Echo pedal, set on Hall turned to about 1pm.Just Bought a Yamaha FGX5 Recently and love it. Recently got a Sho-NUFF 6 string pedal steel in open G.Still learning.Just bought back my old SX lap steel that i modified, in open G
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Post by Joe A. Roberts »

What benders are you using?
On pedal steel usually they would go from the equivalent of a D tuning to get to that G chord.

Usually:
D
A -> B
F# -> G
D
A
D

So if you are starting from the G tuning instead, you are more limited. At least if you are going for the conventional sounds.
Maybe raise the middle D to E to get E minor and G6th chords.
Bending both/either the higher B string to C and the higher G to A could be useful melodically I'd imagine.

I am assuming the benders can't LOWER the strings, but if they can, you could lower the high B to A, and the G to F#, for a reverse of the usual setup.

Let us know how it goes!
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Looking at using Peters benders, and maybe a Gretch lap steel,

Thanks for your imput.
I have a Tele plus telecaster, Larrivee acoustic. Also have a Fender resonator guitar with new Quarterman cone and spider, and an Allan tailpiece .Playing through a Fender Super Champ XD, using a little delay on the amp and a Harmonix Holy Grail Echo pedal, set on Hall turned to about 1pm.Just Bought a Yamaha FGX5 Recently and love it. Recently got a Sho-NUFF 6 string pedal steel in open G.Still learning.Just bought back my old SX lap steel that i modified, in open G
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Post by Fred »

This great with pedals but may be awkward if you want to stay in G for any length of time

D
A =>B
F# =>G
D
B
G
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Just tried this tuning looks promising,thanks
I have a Tele plus telecaster, Larrivee acoustic. Also have a Fender resonator guitar with new Quarterman cone and spider, and an Allan tailpiece .Playing through a Fender Super Champ XD, using a little delay on the amp and a Harmonix Holy Grail Echo pedal, set on Hall turned to about 1pm.Just Bought a Yamaha FGX5 Recently and love it. Recently got a Sho-NUFF 6 string pedal steel in open G.Still learning.Just bought back my old SX lap steel that i modified, in open G
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I have a Fouke aluminum lap steel, 6 string with two Certano benders......my tuning is:

1. D>E
2. B>C
3. G
4. D
5. B
6. G


Depressing both levers gives me a C (inversion).....the 4 chord change like the AB pedals......I also have the single change of D>E which gives me an E minor (inversion) and the 6th note of the G scale......
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How are the benders set up ,sound very promising.
I have a Tele plus telecaster, Larrivee acoustic. Also have a Fender resonator guitar with new Quarterman cone and spider, and an Allan tailpiece .Playing through a Fender Super Champ XD, using a little delay on the amp and a Harmonix Holy Grail Echo pedal, set on Hall turned to about 1pm.Just Bought a Yamaha FGX5 Recently and love it. Recently got a Sho-NUFF 6 string pedal steel in open G.Still learning.Just bought back my old SX lap steel that i modified, in open G
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HowardR what gauge strings are you using for that set up
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Haven't tried it as yet.
I have a Tele plus telecaster, Larrivee acoustic. Also have a Fender resonator guitar with new Quarterman cone and spider, and an Allan tailpiece .Playing through a Fender Super Champ XD, using a little delay on the amp and a Harmonix Holy Grail Echo pedal, set on Hall turned to about 1pm.Just Bought a Yamaha FGX5 Recently and love it. Recently got a Sho-NUFF 6 string pedal steel in open G.Still learning.Just bought back my old SX lap steel that i modified, in open G
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I’m not sure how benders behave with wound strings, but I’d like to try;

D
B
G
D -> E
B -> C
G

This takes you from G to Em7 and C major. Also CM7, C9, CM9, G6 etc…

To b honest the D major to G Major above makes more sense to me overall, but if I wanted my base tuning to be G high bass. The variant I suggested might work out.
Current Tunings:
GBDGBD (open G)
GBDEGBD (G6)

https://papadafoe.com/lap-steel-tuning-database
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Thanks for your imput
I have a Tele plus telecaster, Larrivee acoustic. Also have a Fender resonator guitar with new Quarterman cone and spider, and an Allan tailpiece .Playing through a Fender Super Champ XD, using a little delay on the amp and a Harmonix Holy Grail Echo pedal, set on Hall turned to about 1pm.Just Bought a Yamaha FGX5 Recently and love it. Recently got a Sho-NUFF 6 string pedal steel in open G.Still learning.Just bought back my old SX lap steel that i modified, in open G
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Christopher Blood wrote:HowardR what gauge strings are you using for that set up

1. D>E.....016
2. B>C.....018
3. G.......028
4. D.......036
5. B.......046
6. G.......056
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Have decided not to use benders as it won't give me what I want,thanks for your input.
I have a Tele plus telecaster, Larrivee acoustic. Also have a Fender resonator guitar with new Quarterman cone and spider, and an Allan tailpiece .Playing through a Fender Super Champ XD, using a little delay on the amp and a Harmonix Holy Grail Echo pedal, set on Hall turned to about 1pm.Just Bought a Yamaha FGX5 Recently and love it. Recently got a Sho-NUFF 6 string pedal steel in open G.Still learning.Just bought back my old SX lap steel that i modified, in open G
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Carl McLaughlin wrote:Have decided not to use benders as it won't give me what I want,thanks for your input.
Carl, you might like a 7 string. You can keep your favourite 6 string tuning, and experiment with different options with the 7th string.

The other good option is the one you’ve already chosen. The dual six. Keep your favourite tuning on one neck and experiment on the other.
Current Tunings:
GBDGBD (open G)
GBDEGBD (G6)

https://papadafoe.com/lap-steel-tuning-database
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Thanks Allen,

I have been messing with Gmaj9 and it is pretty good ,might stick with it.
I have a Tele plus telecaster, Larrivee acoustic. Also have a Fender resonator guitar with new Quarterman cone and spider, and an Allan tailpiece .Playing through a Fender Super Champ XD, using a little delay on the amp and a Harmonix Holy Grail Echo pedal, set on Hall turned to about 1pm.Just Bought a Yamaha FGX5 Recently and love it. Recently got a Sho-NUFF 6 string pedal steel in open G.Still learning.Just bought back my old SX lap steel that i modified, in open G